I expect vitriolic comments and the same old tiresome arguments for their dogged determination to champion their candidate who lost.
I like Ron Paul. He has the courage to say what he truly means. That is rare in politics these days. Those who pander to causes and voters have little to brag about except their lack of principles. I agree with Paul about the financial mess we’re in, the gold standard, and auditing the Fed. I do not agree with his foreign policy positions.
We live in a historic time in our country placing us on the threshold of choosing liberty or tyranny. There are no other choices and that is where the staunch Ron Paul supporters lose. We only have two real choices in November to make that choice. I’m in the same position. My candidate didn’t win.
Earlier today I saw the same old tired attitudes and excuses. One commenter on Facebook used Bill Maher, of all people, for his argument not to see “2016: Obama’s America.” He gave Maher’s explanation of why he wouldn’t see it. That’s your frame of reference? Bill Maher? He wouldn’t even avail himself of the long researched information presented chronologically in the movie concerning our present President’s background. Bill Maher was good enough for him. It makes you wonder how radical some Paul supporters have become.
What happened at the “good old boy” GOP convention was an outrage. The rules change and how it was handled was ghastly. Boehner and Sununu have lost all credibility with many Republicans. Mine was gone years ago. Many will leave the party because of it and even more will actively support and work for a NEW political party that upholds our Constitution as written by our Founding Fathers. I advocate a new party AFTER the election. The “chicken-neck” Republicans who have dined at the trough for generations in Washington D.C. must go or be replaced. The GOP will implode when conservatives and libertarians flee the party. Many are dissenting now. Read “Pavlov’s Republicans.”
The dilemma for the Ron Paul supporters is:
1. Do I continue to support Paul in this election knowing I can’t win and let tyranny reign?
2. Do I take my ball and go home, not vote at all, and support tyranny?
3. Do I stamp my feet, vote for Obama and give him power by fiat and support tyranny?
4. Do I use the facade of “principles” as my excuse not to TRY and save this nation for our children, grandchildren and future generation? Or, at least give them the chance to fight for liberty should I fail at this juncture?
5. Have I REALLY thought about what it means to have Obama for another four years? With Obama’s track record would I even continue to have freedom to speak of Mr. Paul’s point of view?
6. OR, do I take a deep breath, hold my nose, vote for the only other choice, work to get Constitutionalists in the Senate and House, and work like my life depended on it, (if your senior citizen with Medicare it literally does) then hold the new administrations feet to the fire?
An implacable position makes Paul supporters losers. Why you ask? They will lose when they choose to stay at home or write in their candidate’s name making the CHANCE for freedom regained, lost. The man they so admire is an older gentleman. His life span, in all probability, is not much longer; much like mine. Their hero will no longer be with them. The idol they so admire will be gone. Now the rumor is the Paul supporters will try and suppress the vote for Romney. I can think of no better way to leave a legacy of denigration for a fine man than to demolish the chance at saving our children’s future. They will lose on all sides. They will lose him, their freedom and they will help to denigrate Mr. Paul’s legacy.
Yes, I agree with the Ron Paul supporters and Mark Levin that we have lost our freedoms. Will we have a chance, JUST THE CHANCE, to regain them under Barack Obama? The answer is a resounding NO! The recent detainment of a Facebook user, former marine Brandon Raub, without warrant or arrest, taken to a psychiatric facility until the Rutherford Institute stepped in as his legal counsel, is one indication that your freedoms are one electoral vote away from you.
The REAL questions is:
Do I give away the CHANCE to turn it around so I can continue to work for the things Congressman Ron Paul espoused or do I hand it to a despot willing to take even your freedom to voice Mr. Paul’s positions away? That’s the question. A CHANCE to redeem our freedom or NO chance at all and irrecuperable tyranny.
Like Mark Levin said, if the GOP doesn’t listen, we won’t have to do anything; it will implode. Levin’s audio is what changed my mind.
That’s right. Surprise, surprise I held the same position, however, the logic with which Mr. Levin states his position turned me 180 degrees. I beg good citizens who support Ron Paul not to give up the CHANCE.
Mark Levin: I’d Rather Fight With A Moderate Republican Than Give Obama a Second Term!
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Isn’t there already an example for people in the liberty movement (or whatever you call it) to follow if they want to become a solid block in the Republican Party?
Evangelicals and gun rights advocates refuse to vote for people who violate their principles, even if it means short-term defeat. Today, as opposed to 20 or 30 years ago, their principles are fundamental Republican policies. For example, a straightforward principle to use as a litmus test would be whether the candidate supports cutting a trillion dollars from next year’s federal budget.
Justin I agree to a certain point. However, you stated “vote for people who violate their principles, even if it means SHORT-TERM DEFEAT.” I believe that is the problem with most, not all, Ron Paul supporters. They don’t see this election as the one that will break this Republic if Mr. Obama stays in office. AND break it, it will. It will not be short-term, it will be lost forever. This man dictates NOW from the oval office and has placed mechanisms so entrenched we won’t be able to remove them. That’s the short-sighted view from the majority of Ron Paul supporters. Thank you for your comment.
I’m not sure what that means in practice. If Romney wins though, he’ll be renominated for a second term. At best, that is eight years of Romney, who will be no different than Bush 43 in terms of spending and debt. Or we could have four years of Romney and then four years of someone maybe even worse than Obama.
I think your reply shows how little you know of the government by fiat that is happening. Private property is being assaulted under Obama. Freedom of speech, religion, your water rights, the rights to protect your state and country. The massive Executive Orders that will allow our lands, resources, and freedom to be taken over by a central government via regulatory bodies are happening every week. Your media is not telling you about this. It’s done by researchers such as Trevor Loudon, Lork Monckton, Tom DeWeese, etc. I’ve never seen a first lady denigrate our country by saying “it’s a mean country.” I’ve never seen a President say that success is evil and don’t even think about it or I’m coming after you. If you haven’t seen “2016: Obama’s America” you need to. It gives insight into the man’s thinking. It only scratches the surface but it’s enough. IF he wins, the Republic is gone. He’ll “have more flexibility” to help the Russians succeed in their goals. Open mic day remember?
Again, TP Hobbit Woman – you’ve hit the nail on the head! Ron Paul is now history, although many of his ideas & policies will live on in a newer version and with a much bigger constituency. Actually, I should amend that to say that his
ideas for addressing the domestic economic agenda will continue to have legs; but only the general outline of his foreign policy ideas (modified isolationism) will even have a chance to survive to see another day. Being naive on the subject of a nuclear Iran and dismissive of such a strong and important ally as Israel is nothing more than a reiteration of Obama’s disgusting foreign policy objectives!
I agree. That’s my only problem with Mr. Paul. His foreign policy should be modified. We do have allies. You break those bonds if we are attacked and need help as we’ve given others in the past, we’ve done ourselves no favors. On the other hand I believe this country could thrive and be self-sufficient should our government get out of the way, let us use our lands, and resources freely. We could be isolated and survive quite well.
Let’s hope the RP supporters allow themselves to see the facts instead of the dream. I know RP promised nothing but the Constitution yet he is willing to hand this Constitution-Busting administration another 4 years to complete their wrecking job. Exactly how patriotic is RP when he can’t get out of his own way long enough to save the Republilc? Will his followers wake up in time to see the hypocrisy coming from RP and accept that they are nothing more than useful tools for his ego?
I agree happeninghobbit. That is my concern as well. I believe that if they pursue a narrow focus they will LOSE and they have no idea what is coming their way. Tunnel vision does not allow for perspectives outside of your own and can be disastrous not only for themselves but for the whole country.